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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.11 10:13:35 -
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This becomes an unexpectedly good discussion ...
The reasons why I'm staying in an NPC corp were already named by others. The main point for me is ... independence ... I want to be free to decide anytime, what, where, when, and with whom I do stuff in the game. I know if I would join a player corp it would suck me into obligations and responsibility - which is not bad and I won't exclude it for the future - but atm I don't have the time and patience for that.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.11 18:29:14 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote: You regularly stroll down and as a matter of routine to an area of null sec, to shoot at players, where they follow the belief of independance to infuriating levels.
I'm always happy to provide content. 
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.12 11:58:07 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:I mean that you harp on about independance as though it can only exist in a NPC corp in high sec. You can declare or perceive independence towards and with different entities of course. As a corp you can be independent and not being part of an alliance, as an alliance you can hold your own sov but be independent form any of the big coalitions. It's purely subjective ... if I would join a VOLT corp certainly I have to follow the Provi rules and contribute to the agenda, which is not bad in general, but not what I like and would call independent personally.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.14 10:55:45 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Basically make highsec safer...
specifically make joining or recruiting into the corps riskless.
Now to make a switch that turns off corp theft? A "social only" corp where you can't put assets into a stealable place? ... I have a better idea, remove corps from highsec, corp offices shall be only allowed in low or nullsec.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.02.17 13:00:48 -
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Vincent Athena wrote: The issue here is CCP has data that shows that players who never join a player corp tend to leave the game sooner than those players who do join. So the issue is player retention; ways to get those players more involved with the game, so they hang around longer.
This point is brought up again and again without reflection. A correlation between two numbers does not mean that there is a dependency. It could well be, that people staying in NPC corps and quit early will also quit early if they are forced to join a player corp. And the other way round, that people joining player corps are willing to commit to an agenda and a social group in general and therefore stay longer. My guess is that the majority of players staying in NPC corps are doing that for a reason.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.16 16:25:44 -
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Nick Bete wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Nick Bete wrote:ICBM launch
Jeez mate. I'd say take a chill pill and relax, but I wouldn't be so presumptive. No one's trying to tell anyone here what to do. I think we probably all value our freedom of choice and the discussion isn't about limiting anyone's. It's just a general chat about reasons people stay in npc corps. You might want to tell that to certain other posters who've called those of us who choose to stay in NPC corps cowards, risk averse, immature, not hardcore enough, petty facists, etc. This thread still exists?
Those NPC haters are mad because they are surrounded by blues in their big alliances, or they never left highsec and are addicted to shoot easy prey. 
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.17 12:54:52 -
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Thanks a lot for sharing again ... I hope this finally kicks the NPC garbage out of the discussion and we can go back to the core of the problem ... how to make new players experience "This is EvE" with as small barriers as possible, so they can judge if it's the game they want to play (for the rest of their lives ).
To speak for myself, what finally got me in, were the NPSI groups and fleets and all the different play styles associated with them, from small scale frigate size, being part of a large battleship fleet to cloaky ops. Everybody can participate from a few weeks in the game, with no politics, (almost) no drama, no obligations (except TS/Mumble), just x-up and have fun (or not).
I think the best you can do is, take newbies out for a PvP op yourself (if you want to FC) or direct them towards the NPSI groups to fly with them a couple of times ... I'm sure, if they get hooked, they will likely stay, if not, at least they can't complain not being able to experience "This is EvE".
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.23 15:23:29 -
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Caius Sivaris wrote: What you won't get not being reliably involved is responsibilities, but then it doesn't look like you want them, and being as naive as you are, that it would be wise to give them to you.
In my corp if you're not here you miss on the kills, but no one would even think of holding it against you...
Hmm, what's the point of being in a player corp then? Just a bunch of people doing things together or not, does not qualify for a player corp IMO.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.23 18:19:25 -
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Freakshow Oriki wrote:Hello all, I am a new player and thought I would leave some feedback about my time so far in a npc corp.
I think you are a good candidate for trying the NPSI communities ... have a look at the public channels of Spectre Fleet, RvB Ganked, Redemption Road or Bombers Bar. Maybe CAS Combat Guild in Syndicate could be a thing for you ... don't need to play alone .
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 11:56:49 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:
If you are ready to become content for vets, join some accepting FW PvP corp, or fly those spy-farmed NPSI fleets. Both will give you a great sample how many stomps, losses and misery will await you on your way over SP wall in the next 5-6 years. Then you can finally PvP. Maybe. If SP wall doesn't grow faster than you would.
You are trolling, right? I got my first couple of solo kills (even one 1:2 I remember) against much older players in an FFA (Free For All brawl) organized by Crossing Zebras only a couple of months into the game. And I didn't stop successfully PvPing solo and in fleets since then. The SP wall is a myth, just focus on one hull/weapon system and you are competitive in short time.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 15:30:08 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote: Yeah, focusing on one hull/weapon system can make you perfect with it around 25 million SP, which is around 1.5 - 2 years depending on your implants. Add a few million if it's a cruiser system and about 10 million more if it's a battleship system.
Then see bittervets undocking only in fits which reliably beat the crap out of your system of choice, and continue this miserable existence of being content for everyone over SP wall, till you leap the rest of SP wall.
Sigh. I start to get the feeling you are a lost cause ... 
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 16:55:09 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote: Mine is a corp for training newbies
OMG 
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.03.24 18:49:21 -
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Basil Pupkin wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Basil Pupkin wrote: Mine is a corp for training newbies
OMG  As in "OMG how dare you play differently and not in my favor". Which is pretty much the thread's one-liner. Not exactly, rather "OMG, this guy teaches newbies they are crap until 50m SP, and then they are still crap because there are players with 100m SP".
Risk aversion and hesitent CEOs are poisen for player retention, IMO. ...and we are back on-topic.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.05.29 14:47:13 -
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Joe Risalo wrote: Everyone keeps equating the problem as the NPC corp.
Not everyone, but those who insist on that follow an agenda ... they want to have more easy prey in highsec to shoot. NPC corp players are always protected by Concord, which disrupts their "business".
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 04:40:37 -
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There are significant differences between wardecs and suicide ganking. The most important one is that you can easily avoid being ganked. Wardecs throw a corp into "nullsec".
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 11:09:36 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:Speaking from own experience; As much as I love EVE online I play it very casually. I feel like many corps would just dislike player who hardly is online or is offline for week or two every month. But I feel to add that not all players who sit in NPC corp might be in there just because War Decs. I would say player corps are not the right structure for nomadic and casual players without interest in managing structures ... that's why the "clubs" are needed. Even if you try creating a corp full of casuals, there will sooner than later be conflicts around the shared assets and the roles/competencies. Corps are dictatorships like the corps in RL, if they don't follow a common goal, they will die.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 13:32:04 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote: "nullsec"? Don't make me laugh. Wardecs or no wardecs, highsec is exceedingly safe.
Though some say nullsec is safer than highsec ...
... but then war deccers are sh** in hunting people.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.04 16:18:54 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Tipa Riot wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote: "nullsec"? Don't make me laugh. Wardecs or no wardecs, highsec is exceedingly safe.
Though some say nullsec is safer than highsec ...  ... but then war deccers are sh** in hunting people. The skill of the person doing the hunting really isn't all that relevant. Bad or good, everyone shows up in local. Sure, leave corp, get to system, scan down, approach, get back to corp, shoot. GG
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 05:11:32 -
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This means, pending corp applications can't be accepted while the applicant is in space?
In general the mechanic is even more broken, if some simple steps of standard game mechanics get you banned.
Also NPC corps are not a group of players IMO, there was no choice involved, just a placeholder tag for players not in a (player) corp.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.05 07:15:25 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Sibyyl wrote: Can't rejoin a corp at war for 7 days.
Yeah this even more. It would require a lot of advanced planning and preparation to try the warp to target, join Corp approach. The mechanics make it extremely difficult. PvP rules in low and null are so much easier ... I will probably never become a highsec PvPer.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.06 17:14:55 -
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Sibyyl wrote:Lucy Lopez wrote:Wardeccing isn't a combat mechanism, it's a strategy. If you want to explode NPC corp members in highsec then the sandbox already offers you various strategies for that. What you want is access to the easiest strategy of them all. The equivalent of saying nullsec is easy because two parties can shoot each other freely. Easy peasy! A bit more precision please, in non-highsec everybody can shoot everybody without noticeable consequences. In a highsec war only the involved corps can initially shoot each other without Concord involvement, which is a huge difference.
Personally I'm all against arranged fights, and wardecs are from that kind. If they wouldn't be needed today to attack corp structures in highsec, I would like to see them scrapped and replaced by a more implicit way of initiation a fight by just shooting. Shoot first, talk later - this is EvE. 
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
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Posted - 2015.06.10 18:15:13 -
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The last post inspired me to an idea, what if in starter corps you get notifications about opportunity completions of other corp members (maybe aggregated to reduce spamming and limited to starter systems)? Get to know about things your fellow newbies are doing ...to break isolation from first second in game.
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